The dark origins of Disney fairy tales - Claudia Schwabe

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Dig into the infamous tales of the Brothers Grimm, and explore how these gory stories evolved as they spread around the world.

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An evil stepmother demands a maiden’s lungs and liver; a girl is ripped from a wolf’s stomach; and sisters mutilate their feet to squeeze into a gold slipper. During the early 1800s, brothers Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm gathered these unflinchingly gory details from stories circulating around what’s now Germany. Claudia Schwabe explores how these now-infamous tales evolved as they spread worldwide.

Lesson by Claudia Schwabe, directed by Skirmanta Jakaitė.

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  1. @apizzathatgiant

    It's important to remember that these stories started out as oral tales, told around fires the same way a spooky ghost story might be. The darkness in the first editions were very much on purpose. They were meant to entertain and scare people as opposed to offering moral lessons.

    88 likes

  2. @carlosalmonacid8958

    TBF, The Disney version of Cinderella is based on Perrault’s version, not the Grimm’s.

    522 likes

  3. @derkaiser420

    A typical German fairytale. 'And then everyone died. The End. Now go to sleep."

    1K likes

  4. @poweroffriendship2.0

    The scene from Into the Woods where the stepsisters cut their toes to fit in Cinderella’s shoe is closer to Grimm accurate, but I gotta say, it’s AGONY.

    333 likes

  5. @juliena3379

    the funny thing is that it seems like every tale for children today is a dark concept that was toned down enough to be considered child friendly. even Disney movies today are going through that process in the development

    77 likes

  6. @ka-amemorivonorchid6001

    The Brothers Grimm sought out these grim, cruel folklore traditions because they spoke to the collective trauma and pain of a generation. It’s so true—sometimes exploring the frightening and creepy is exactly what cures and processes our deepest painful thoughts.

    81 likes

  7. @PrimalJournalYT

    The Grimm brothers' transformation of the "wicked mother" into a "stepmother" in the following revisions is truly a masterful psychological attack

    1.3K likes

  8. @BojackHorseman0098

    It's easy to forget that in premodern times story telling was the simplest method of group entertainment. You spend an evening at the tavern drinking, singing songs, and telling stories. The funny thing is, it's the (relatively) tame and edited published fairy tales that get remembered as bedtime stories.

    51 likes

  9. @mitwhitgaming7722

    I often think about how Japanese folklore seems dark by Western standards, but I feel like that is largely because European folklore has been softened over the years.

    1.6K likes

  10. @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    I never realized the Grimm brothers themselves “softened” lots of their own stories! I thought it was Disney taking directly from original Grimm stories and not Disney taking from revised stories, either revised by Grimm brothers or others

    33 likes

  11. @jvingghost413

    i think everyone knows that Disney changed a lot of the stories that they used in their movies because they wouldn’t have been suitable for a 20th century children’s audience

    31 likes

  12. @RichardSeebald

    Hans Christian Anderson's fairy tales are dark too with the Little Mermaid cutting out her tongue for a pair of legs and end up dying and turning into seafoam, or the Snow Queen story with men having glass pierce their eyes.

    12 likes

  13. @PokhrajRoy.

    Fairy tales were the original A24 High Concept Horror Movies.

    80 likes

  14. @aaronlazaro7226

    I also love the originally dark versions of the classics. I highly recommend Women of the Fairy Tale Resistance: The Forgotten Founding Mothers of the Fairy Tale and the Stories That They Spun. Written by Jane Harrington, the book chronicles the lives of Marie-Catherine d'Aulnoy, Marie-Jeanne L'Héritier, Catherine Bernard, Henriette-Julie de Murat, Charlotte-Rose de Caumont de La Force, and Catherine Durand, the seven French conteuses who invented fairy tales to rebel against King Louis XIV's sexist laws. Harrington's book also contains retellings of the conteuses' tales, including the ones Charles Perrault and the Brothers Grimm would later retell.

    8 likes

  15. @markmunroe-hz8rf

    Id say the original dark Grimm Fairy Tales were intended to be satirical and cautionary tales

    115 likes

  16. @cnot4948

    More people should actually read as opposed to waiting for the movie (lol). I was fully aware of the real stories behind the disney-fied versions by the time I was 10. Spent the best part of my childhood reading Grimm, O'Henry, Aesop's fables, Hans Christian Anderson and 1001 Arabian Nights. Very dark stories but there's always a moral, a lesson or simply a tragic ending.

    7 likes

  17. @srichandanachillara689

    there was actually an anime released like 3, 4 yrs ago called " the grimm variations " which was based on this ..definitely do check it out if ur interested cause its dope

    6 likes

  18. @erzaine6545

    Not sure if accurate, but have heard that the story of "Beauty and the Beast" is based on training young girls to enjoy marrying much older men (Beasts)

    7 likes

  19. @docfox4353

    While I love the more raw and unsensitized versions of these stories, I am glad they weren't the versions I was introduced to

    30 likes

  20. @kahinaharrache5026

    Just in my lifetime of 4 decades, I saw the editing in those fairytales come to life without realising it at first. When I was a kid, I was so much into buying fairytale books and in those books I remember the step sisters cutting their toes to fit into the slipper.

    10 likes